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Getting to 30: Effa Manley Division

#Cleveland Spiders

The pitching staff seems set with Hank Gastright and Firpo Marberry heading back to the minors. The only real question is the long reliever roles, where 1 or 2 of Hardie Henderson, Sudden Sam McDowell, and Stan Coveleski will make the roster. They’ve all struggled a bit, especially with their control.

Surprisingly, Jim Thome ends up losing the battle at 1B. But 5 players remain on the roster who can play 1B, and all of them were significantly better than Thome during the Spring.

SS is just a desolation for the Spiders: neither Bill Dahlen, Joe Sewell, or Tom Veryzer have hit over .133 or posted an OPS over .360 over the Spring games. Bill Knickerbocker has shown some spark, but it’s only been 10 ABs. Sewell and Veryzer are sent down for now, but a better performance has to come out eventually.

#Homestead Grays

Ray Brown and John Candelaria stay in camp as long relievers, which means Bartolo Colon and Babe Adams are off to the minors.

Josh Lindblom is holding on to the closer role, but Kent Tekulve and Michael Jackson are clearly poised to help out if he falters.

Khalil Greene impressed enough in his stint to beat out Jay Bell for the backup SS role behind Arky Vaughan. The final cut was rough, first of all because Paul Waner‘s short-term injury complicates the situation. Beyond that, Honus Wagner has struggled, but has shown some power, making Phil Garner the final cut for now.

#Indianapolis ABC’s

The ABC’s are one of the few teams to have an embarrassment of riches of starting pitching. It’s great for them, but makes the roster cuts rough. Rob Dibble and Lefty James in the bullpen are locks, as are Red Faber, Dolf Luque, and Johnny Cueto in the rotation. Paul Derringer joins as the 4th starter.

The 5th slot is between Virgil Trucks, David Price, and Bronson Arroyo. But Willie Mitchell and Dixie Leverett would have earned starting positions on other teams: look for their return or for them to be trade bait.

The rest of the cuts were pretty pedestrian, if a little surprising: Barry Larkin was eliminated from the crush of options at SS, Charlie Hemphill just couldn’t do enough in the OF.

#New York Black Yankees

Like Indianapolis, too much starting pitching is a blessing in disguise. Ron Guidry is a lock, along with Red Ruffing and Dave Righetti. Beyond that, 5 pitchers are competing for 4 spots: 2 in the rotation, 2 in the pen. AJ Burnett, Lady Baldwin, Waite Hoyt, and Whitey Ford all deserve another start, while Jack Scott should get some more bullpen innings before the final decision.

It’s complicated by Sparky Lyle and Goose Gossage both being sidelined with injury.

Luckily 4 of the 6 remaining cuts are clear, as Joe Harris, Chris Brown, Hardy Richardson, and Aaron Hill head to AAA. Sam Thompson will join them, but the final cut is difficult, especially as both Red Rolfe and Moose Skowron have torn the cover off the ball in limited action. Skowron has the biggest challenge to make the team, as 1B is well blocked, so he also returns to the minors.

#Philadelphia Stars

There are 2 pending questions on the pitching staff: first, while Monte Ward, Jack Katoll, and Pete Alexander are all on the roster, it’s not clear who starts the season as the 5th starter. Second, Brad Kilby, Rheal Cormier, and Pedro Feliciano are 3 hurlers trying to fill 2 spots.

Mickey Doolin can’t return from injury soon enough; in the meantime, Larry Bowa will start at SS, backed up by Roger Peckingpaugh, with Pat Meares heading to the minors.

Sending both Bobby Abreu and Dusty Baker to AAA clears up a crowded OF, and Cecil Cooper will join them after failing to displace Ted Kluszewski at 1B.

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Banner images in random rotation are

  • A close-up of Oscar Charleston‘s face.
  • Pictures of Cy Young, Honus Wagner, Willie Keeler, Satchel Paige, Pete Hill, Rube Foster, and Effa Manley.
  • Four players from the All American Girls Professional Baseball League.
  • The 1932 Negro League All Star team.
  • 3 players from the House of David baseball team.
  • A shot of 5 players from the Homestead Grays, including Josh Gibson and Buck Leonard (2nd and 3rd from L).
  • King Tut, Oscar Charleston, and Connie Morgan.
  • The 1891 Black Stockings Nine.
  • Bob Motley, the longest-surviving NeL umpire.
  • A shot of Lou Gehrig, Tris Speaker, Ty Cobb, and Babe Ruth.

Spring Training Preview: Homestead

  • The rotation is pretty much set: it would take a stellar spring for the most likely candidates of Carlos Zambrano, John Candelaria, or Bartolo Colon to break through.
    • Best laid plans and all that. Billy Pierce and Babe Adams have both been hit hard, with Pierce especially ineffective. So more SPs are being looked at. Zambrano, Carlson, and Francisco Liriano look to be firmly in the mix.
      • Pierce is off to AAA. Carlson has moved into the starting rotation, joining Zambrano, Corey Kluber, Vean Gregg, and Liriano. Barring a collapse, that’s the starting rotation right there. The question for them then becomes whether Brown, Adams, Colon, and Candelaria are better served in long relief in MLB or starting at AAA.
  • That said, that trio along with Hal Carlson and Ray Brown have a decent shot at a bullpen role, especially if Frank Linzy or Kent Tekulve struggle.
    • Linzy has, but Tekulve–along with closer Josh Lindblom and Michael Jackson–have been excellent.
      • Bill Fischer and Will Thompson are struggling at the back end of the bullpen.
  • The backup 2B job is up for grabs between Jeff Kent and Phil Garner, as is the starter at 3B, between Chris Sabo and Pedro Feliz.
    • At 2B, Kent is pushing Davey Johnson for the starting role, while Garner has yet to show anything of note, although his defensive flexibility is useful.
      • Kent has the clear edge at 2B, while Sabo has moved ahead of Feliz.
  • The biggest mess is in the OF, where Roberto Clemente and Paul Waner are both guaranteed slots and both strongest at RF. How that plays out, with Rick Reichardt, Tom Brown, Pops Stargell, Andrew McCutcheon, and Max Carey all vying for 3 roster spots, will go a long way to determining the opening day lineups.
    • While Waner has done well, Clemente has hit poorly enough to throw his starting position in doubt. Brown, Stargell, and McCutcheon are all excelling.
  • Josh Gibson is out for a few weeks, prompting Homestead to add Hobie Landrith and Blake Swihart to the roster to support Peaches Graham at C.
    • Swihart and Graham would make the roster at this point.
  • Jay Bell hasn’t shown enough to lock down the backup SS role, so Khalil Greene has been recalled from AAA as a possibility.
    • Perhaps most surprisingly, right now Honus Wagner and Andy Van Slyke are likely to start at AAA.
Near DefiniteLikelyPossibleLong Shot
Starting PitchersCorey Kluber
Carlos Zambrano
Vean Gregg
Francisco Liriano
Hal Carlson
John Candelaria
Ray Brown
Bartolo Colon
Babe Adams
Middle RelieversDaniel HudsonBill Fischer
Will Thompson
Frank Linzy
SetupMichael Jackson
Kent Tekulve
CloserJosh Lindblom
CJosh GibsonPeaches GrahamBlake SwihartHobie Landrith
1BMike EpsteinHonus Wagner
2BDavey JohnsonJeff KentPhil Garner
3BChris SaboPedro FelizAndy Van Slyke
SSArky VaughanJay Bell
Khalil Greene
OFGoose GoslinPops Stargell
Andrew McCutcheon
Tom Brown
Rick Reichardt
Paul Waner
Roberto Clemente
Max Carey
Jack Cust
Willie Stargell of the Homestead Grays

Homestead Grays

Pittsburgh Pirates

AAA – Louisville Redbirds
AA – Syracuse Sky Chiefs
Durham Bulls

Effa Manley Division

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Another choice that felt pretty obvious, given the historical importance of the Grays. With my favorite picture of Honus Wagner already in rotation, I looked for images of the “We Are Family” Pirates of 1979, eventually settling for a young Willie Stargell.

Forbes Field (45,000)
HR: .814 | BA: 1.045
Three Rivers Stadium (37,971)
HR: .865| BA: 1.012
NBT Bank Park (32,000)
HR: .959| BA: 1.009
Durham Athletic Park (36,500)
HR: 1.076 | BA: 1.024

2000: 4th, .448.

2001 Projections

As of the end of Spring Training.

CJosh Gibson
Del Crandall
Rick Ferrell
Peaches Graham
Terry Kennedy
Cam Carreón
El Tappe
Tim Thompson
Earl Grace
Black Swihart
Tom Terrell
Hobie Landrith
1BMike Epstein
Nap Lajoie
Ed KranepoolTony Muser
Santiago Rosario
Daryle Ward
Tim Harkness
2BDavey Johnson
Jeff Kent
Rennie Stennett
Ryan Theriot
Bill Mazeroski
Eric McNair
Lew Fonseca
SSHonus Wagner
Rey Sánchez
Jack Wilson
Omar Vizquel
Dick Groat
Khalil Greene
Paul Janish
JJ Hardy
Dick Schofield
Swede Carlstrom
liover peguero
Bobby Wheelock
3BChris SaboFreddie LindstromPedro Feliz
Brock Holt
Bill Sudakis
judy johnson
Howard Johnson
Steve Hertz
OFRick Reichardt
Willie Stargell
Andrew McCutchen
Roberto Clemente
Andy Van Slyke

Owen Wilson
Goose Goslin
Max Carey
Paul Waner

Jason Bourgeois
Lloyd Waner
dave hoskins
Judge McCredie
Mark Quinn
Darren Lewis
Willie Tasby

Mike Shannon
ralph kiner
Starling Marte

Ken Harrelson
Harvey Hendrick
José Guillén
SPBob Friend
Francisco Liriano
Carlos Zambrano
Ray Brown
Billy Pierce
Corey Kluber
Cliff Lee
Hal Carlson
Bartolo Colón
Brickyard Kennedy
Earl Hamilton
John Candelaria
Catfish Hunter
Trevor Cahill
Carlos Pulido
Jim Nash
Clayton Kershaw
Pink Hawley
ping gardner
Casey Hageman
gary lucas
RPJosh Lindblom
Rick Ownbey
Michael Jackson
Dave Hoskins
Babe Adams
Virgil Barnes
Barney Pelty
Ervin Santana
Ricardo Rincón
Frank Arellanes
Bill Fischer
Moose Haas
Adam Eaton
Russ Kemmerer
Arodys Vizcaíno
Mychal Givens
Harry Kelley
Lee Stange
Joe Callahan
Chris Zachary
UPDave Giusti
Daniel Hudson
Doug Drabek
Corey Kluber
Al Worthington
Iván Nova
Syl Johnson
Luke Hochevar
Tom Underwood
Charles Nagy
Larry Pape
Vern Law
Bob Knepper
johnny morrison
Heatcliff Slocumb
Frank Linzy
Roberto Rodríguez
Brandon Backe
Sarge Connally
Kevin Gausman
nip winters
Jim Baskette
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