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Year III Season Preview: Cleveland Spiders

State of the Franchise

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The Spiders are the best team in the league that nobody’s quite sure how to describe. 2 straight playoff trips, 2 Octobers that ended a round or 2 early — 86 wins and a quick exit in 2000, then 89-73 and a genuine run in 2001, a Wild Card series won over the increasingly hated Black Yankees before the Sea Lions swept them out of the AL Championship. No fatal flaw, no dominant edge. What Cleveland owns instead is optionality: a dozen paths to a win, room to absorb a bet that breaks wrong, and a roster deep enough that no single injury sinks the year (a thesis proven by the absence of controversial star Tris Speaker for all but 40 games of 2000).

The problem is that the same depth cuts the other way. Almost nobody on this roster is fully reliable, fully trusted. So, Do we believe in this guy? is a question Cleveland re-asks on every regular, every March. There is a cliché nature to some of it as well: like so many others, the Spiders are starved for pitching — either an ace to depend on or enough depth to not care. But Cleveland keeps making deals where they move around offensive players, not really addressing the clear bar between them and the elite teams.

Still, a perennial playoff team is nothing to sneeze at, and the talent is here to put it all together. Even if nobody is quite sure exactly how.

2001 Revisited

We spent last spring worried about one position: who plays third base? It was a question of pure scarcity — nobody had stepped up. It was answered very loudly by Evan Longoria: 36 homers, 96 RBI, a Silver Slugger, an AL All-Star nod, and superlative glovework to boot.

Our other big fear was Ron Blomberg collapsing. He most certainly did not collapse, but the cracks deepened. Overall, you cannot complain about his season — 276/348/640 with 54 homers and 143 RBI. But his platoon splits are getting more troubling. Against RHP he was fantastic as ever (321/403/771); against LHP he hit 206/251/432, essentially the same as 2000, but his walks plummeted and his strikeouts took off. Around him the up-years arrived in force: Tris Speaker recovered from injury to slash 312/397/631, Lance Berkman launched 57 homers with a 1.002 OPS in his first full season with the Spiders, Larry Doby hit 41 while seizing claim to the fulltime job in right, and Ed Bailey posted a .920 OPS at C, at 36 to boot.

Still, it ended up par for the course: the arms were fine, but no more than that, and the team couldn’t cross the final hurdle. It’s not a bad place to be — most teams would be envious of the Spiders’ track record. But it’s also not a championship.

Key Changes

In: Aroldis Chapman (NYY)
Out: Joe Sewell (NYY); Joe Smith (FA)

Opening Day Rookies: Jim H Manning; Chaz Roe

Best Case for 2002

Someone anchors the staff, with the most likely candidate being Bob Feller, who went 13-3 with a 4.30 ERA in 17 starts as a 21-year-old. And some still think Cy Young will be more than an innings eater. If 1 of those happens, Cleveland will do well, and if by some miracle both happen, perhaps that will get them over the hill.

The key players bounce back (Louis Santop‘s bat returns to his glove, Chuck Knoblauch looks like himself again), and the strong 2001 performances hold — Speaker, Berkman, Longoria, Doby, Arky Vaughan, Bailey. Finally, the Spiders shelled out some value for newly acquired Aroldis Chapman to solidify the bullpen. He has to deliver.

All of that comes together, and there could be celebrations by the lake come Fall.

Worst Case for 2002

It all breaks the other way, everything altogether all at once. Knoblauch’s 2001 wasn’t a dip but the start of a decline; Santop’s bat stays gone; Willie McCovey‘s 34-year-old legs give out, making his compelling late-career debut merely a mirage; Bailey acts his age; Blomberg collapses against more than just LHP; Berkman slides; and Speaker either gets hurt or just pisses everybody off too much. Feller’s elbow breaks, the rotation is again good-not-great, and in a division stacked with the Black Yankees, Tigers, Orioles, and a suddenly-well-armed Memphis, the Spiders plummet in the standings.

Key Questions

  • Does Feller become the ace — and if he doesn’t, will Cleveland finally buy one? Watching Memphis wheel and deal for not 1 but 2 front line starters has to sting a bit, and raise the question of whether Cleveland’s unwillingness to do the same is warranted conviction about their internal talent or front-office timidity when it comes to betting on pitching.
  • Bounce or decline — which is which? Cleveland’s core competency is reading talent on a roster where almost every regular swings 2-plus WAR a year in one direction or the other. It’s a tricky see-saw, and making the wrong call has repercussions. That’s part of what makes Knoblauch (a real sub-replacement collapse in 2001, discipline intact but the power gone) and Santop (a Gold Glove-caliber 21-year-old whose bat cratered) so important: if they fail, not only are there no clear replacements, but it means the org may be fundamentally misguided in how it judges the swings.
  • What does this lineup do against left-handed pitching? Cleveland bats left-handed almost top to bottom — Speaker, Blomberg, Doby, Bates, and McCovey all swing from the left side, into a park built for left-handed power — which is a wonderful thing to be against right-handers and a real potential weakness against lefties. John Ellis, Longoria, and Knoblauch are the right-handed bats of consequence, with Ken Keltner behind them (Berkman and Sammy Strang switch-hit, so they step out of the tilt entirely). It’s an accident of construction more than a plan, and it hasn’t bit the team so far, but it is something to watch.

Roster Evaluation

Tier = the player’s 2001 positional grade (S best → F worst; color coded S A B C D F). Bold names carry a substantive WBL track; italic names are pure projection — a hope, not a grade — with no qualifying track to anchor them.

PosPlayers
CBailey A · Santop F · Ellis F
1BBerkman A · Blomberg A · McCovey
2BKnoblauch D · Strang
SSVaughan A · Manning
3BLongoria A · Strang
LFBates C
CFSpeaker S · Doby B
RFDoby B · Berkman A
DHMcCovey · Blomberg A
SPSteen C · Young D · Feller D · Malone · Harder
RPAdams C (CL) · Reed C · Chapman F · Gearrin C · Roe

Speaker, the best player in the org at 24, is also its most difficult presence — the kind of star a proud city hasn’t decided how to love, a target of adoration while the club wins, but if the losses start to pile up, how long will his attitude towards his teammates be tolerated? At the other end of the scale sits McCovey — the 34-year-old who turned up and mashed a 1.107 OPS, a lovable late-bloomer a fanbase can wrap its arms around unreservedly.

Talent Ratings

WBLMinors
Raw PowerCF Tris Speaker3B Bob Elliott
Batting Eye2B Sammy Strang3B Bob Elliott
ContactCF Tris Speaker2B Steve Sax; CF Kenny Lofton
Running SpeedSS Jim H ManningLF Pat Friel
Base Stealing2B Sammy Strang; LF Johnny BatesSS Bill Dahlen; CF Kenny Lofton
IF Defense3B Evan Longoria2B Sean Rodriguez
OF DefenseCF Tris SpeakerRF Alexis Rios
StuffRP Aroldis ChapmanSP Balor Moore
ControlSP Chuck PorterRP Edward Mujica
VelocityRP Chaz RoeRP Sergio Romo; RP Andrew Bailey

Best In The Minors

RankAgePosName
1 (63)24RFCraig Wilson
2 (75)23CFLuis Olmo
3 (96)23CFRandy Winn

Others: IF Todd Helton, IF Johnny Hodapp, IF Aubrey Huff, P José Lima, P Balor Moore.

Three ranked prospects, all outfielders, none inside the top 60 — a system a year ago we called one of the worst in the league is, well, still pretty barren. Longoria, Berkman, Vaughan, and Bailey all arrived by spending prospects, and the thin system is what’s left over.

Last year’s top names have turned over completely — Joe Sewell, No. 4 a year ago, was shipped to New York this spring for Chapman. There is some hope in Helton, Hodapp, and Huff, but the position concentration is an issue. Balor Moore is the one arm worth watching — 101 innings of 3.56 ball with 86 strikeouts at Penn Yan, then a 12-inning cameo at Rochester he came through unscored upon.

Kenny Lofton, the org’s Minor League Player of the Year, is a WBL talent stuck at Triple-A.

Superlatives

MostLeast
AgeEd Bailey, 36Abraham Almonte, 17
HeightRon Reed, 6’6″Ned Cuthbert, 5’6″
OPSTris Speaker, 1.028Matt Carpenter, .458 (A)
HRLance Berkman, 57Steve Sax, 1 (AA)
SBKenny Lofton, 85 (AAA)
WAR (bat)Tris Speaker, 6.7Louis Santop, −1.5
WCy Young, 15
SVTerry Adams, 23
ERABalor Moore, 3.18 (A)Yordano Ventura, 5.98
WAR (pit)Bill Steen, 4.9Howard Ehmke, −0.0 (A)

Stats across all levels, 2001 season. 200 PA / 75 IP minimum. Non-WBL levels tagged in parentheses.

TWIWBL 95.3: The Rookie Draft

One of my favorite things each year. The WBL Rookie Draft is always a bit “juiced,” with both some high end talent and some historical “decent” players, but there is plenty of dross here as well in the later rounds.

We’ll cover the first 3 rounds pick-by-pick here, then rounds 4-10 team by team.

A reminder: each team can make 2 picks outside of players historically associated with their seed franchises; the rest (until the tail end of the draft) must come from players that spent a significant period of their career with them.

OOTP does its usual fun on whether these picks actually sign, so news on that will hit future TWIWBL’s.

We are moving towards the 2002 season, for reference. Debut is, of course, an estimate.

#Round 1

Note that Round 1 contained 2 compensation picks for picks from last year’s draft that refused to sign.

PickTeamPlayer & AgePosDebutNote
1.1MCGPedro Martínez (19)P2004Currently a reliever, his live arm warrants a move to the rotation at some point.
1.2MEMJim Rice (18)OF2005Joins a system stocked with young OF, so some trades loom at some point. But, saves an exception pick, which has some value.
1.3CAGZack Greinke (20)P2004Perhaps solves a need for arms; refused to sign last year.
1.4LAARod Carew (19)2B2005Incredibly weak IF system gets a significant boost. At some point, 1B gets crowded, but that’s a problem many years down the road.
1.5SFSJohn Smoltz (19)P2005The rich get richer.
1.6NYGAmos Rusie (18)P2002The best pitcher who looks WBL ready right now. Also a franchise pick.
1.7OTTJim McCormick (21)P2003A gamble, but OTT is desperate for SP.
1.8HOMDavid Cone (19)P2004Another franchise that needs rotation help.
1.9BALJose Altuve (17)2B2006One for the future, but potentially solves the position.
1.10HODJuan Soto (18)OF2004Honestly surprised he fell this far, Soto will cause some issues on the roster, but they’ll be well worth solving.
1.11KCMChris Carpenter (19)P2005More pitching needed, as always.
1.12MCGJack Glasscock (20)SS2004An interesting pick. First potential flop of the draft, but his arrival should coincide well with MCG’s needs as Robin Yount moves out of the middle infield.
1.13NYYGiancarlo Stanton (18)OF2005Not likely to stay with NYY due to a draft-day deal with NYG for Gaylord Perry. That’s dependent on Stanton signing, though.
1.14HODBingo DeMoss (21)2B2004A worthy successor to Ryne Sandberg.
1.15INDDave Winfield (21)OF2003A bit of a steal for the ABC’s.
1.16HODGeorge Zettlein (27)P2002Having used their exceptions, the HOD’s choices were quite limited. Here, they opted for some immediate help, hopefully.
1.17HOUEd Morris (20)P2003Houston will soon have an embarrassment of rotation riches–which should serve them quite well.
1.18PHIDarryl Strawberry (18)OF2003Another pick that will lead to a crowded roster, but Strawberry’s peak is too attractive to ignore.
1.19CLETodd Helton (22)1B2003A long-term solution to an aging position for the Spiders.
1.20PORJack Fournier (16)1B2006A big bat, but a long ways away.
1.21BRKBrett Butler (22)OF2004A safe pick, and perhaps overvalued here.
1.22SFSDick McBride (24)P2003More help on the mound for the Sea Lions.

#Round 2

PickTeamPlayer & AgePosDebutNote
2.1OTTRobbie Ray (20)P2004The peak is attractive.
2.2BBBYoenis Céspedes (27)OF2002Some immediate help for a somewhat crowded OF.
2.3CAGJosé Quintana (20)P2005More long term rotation help.
2.4LAACharlie Leibrandt (21)2B2005More pitching depth. Spot a pattern?
2.5HODPat Luby (20)P2004With their exceptions used up, the pool thins out quickly.
2.6LAAGarry Templeton (19)SS2005Templeton didn’t sign with HOU last year, he find himself in an organization more desperate for MI help this year.
2.7OTTBilly Jurges (21)SS2003Maybe a hedge against Álex Rodríguez’ eventual shift to 3B?
2.8CAGJosh Hader (19)P2005Eventual closer possibility for a team that should need it.
2.9KCMBill Sherdel (20)P2005A surprise pick. We’ll see.
2.10BBBRon Gant (18)SS2007BBB traded up to get Gant who, while a few years away, does project as a decent corner OF.
2.11KCMAllen Sothoron (20)P2005More pitching, constrained by franchise history.
2.12PORJosh Johnson (18)P2006Development needed, but decent upside.
2.13INDJohnny Allen (24)P2002A potential steal, as Allen could help this season.
2.14BALJouett Meekin (22)P2003Another intriguing selection–immediate help, if not a lot of extended value.
2.15HOUPaul Splittorf (22)P2004Decent mid-rotation talent.
2.16PORBob Groom (23)P2003More medium talent with potential near-term impact.
2.17CLETommy Corcoran (17)SS2006A pick for the future, but not a bad bet.
2.18HOUTommy Harper (20)OF2005HOU has an affection for these multi-position, roster extended options.
2.19BRKZane Smith (21)P2005Brooklyn believes deeply in stockpiling arms and letting them develop, Smith fits that profile.
2.20SFSJimmie Lyons (20)OF2003No room for him in SFS, but his talent is undeniable.

We’re quickly moving to less immediately impactful names, so we’ll do the rest of the draft as team summaries.

TeamRounds 1-2Rounds 3-12GradeGrade/ Notes
BALJose Altuve (2B), Jouett Meekin (P)Billy Lush (OF), Terry Crowley (1B), Herm Starrette (P), Levin Jones (OF), Eddy Rodríguez (P), Gosuke Katoh (1B), Earl Cook (P), Jerry Hinsley (P), Candy Sierra (P)CAltuve is great, but very young. Not a lot from the rest, although Crowley has some pop in his bat.
BBBYoenis Céspedes (OF)Steve Cishek (P), Ricardo Hernández (3B), Ed Hanyzewski (P), Grant Dayton (P), Lefty Wallace (P), Harry Hulihan (P), Zach Vincej (SS), Jake Smith (P), Dale Roberts (P), Kid Baldwin (C), Brandon Larson (3B)CHernández has some potential, but this is not a great draft, even if Céspedes comes good somewhat immediately.
BRKBrett Butler (OF), Zane Smith (P)Jerry Garvin (P), Lew McCarty (C), Mickey Hughes (P), Davis Daniel (P), Joe Evers (1B), Marvell Wynne (OF), Ed Albosta (P), Shaun Anderson (P)BA good job. Butler will have a WBL career, and both Smith and Garvin have live arms. Wynne may be a steal as well.
CAGZack Greinke (P), José Quintana (P), Josh Hader (P)Bob Priddy (P), Dominic Fletcher (OF), Mike Caruso (SS), Harry Clark (3B), Ross Gload (OF), Mem Lovett (1B), Rómulo Sánchez (P), Al Kellett (P), Hugh Canavan (P), Vaughn Eshelman (P)A-The first 3 picks are all excellent additions to a system starved for pitching. Not a lot else, although Caruso and Gload may have some potential.
CLETodd Helton (1B), Tommy Corcoran (SS)Julián Tavárez (P), Emil Levsen (P), Abraham Almonte (2B), Chauncey Fisher (P), Jerry Fahr (P), Cotton Knaupp (SS), Dalton Jones (2B), Juan Castillo (2B), Rabbit Benton (2B)B+Helton solves a long-term issue, the rest seems fine, with Tavárez being a decent pickup.
DETRiley Greene (OF), Kid Madden (P), Jakie May (P), Howie Krist (P), Nate Cornejo (P), Bill Barrett (C), Jess Pike (P), Ambrose McGann (2B), Bud Smith (P), Otto Jacobs (C), Jeter Downs (2B)CNo picks in the first 2 rounds hurts a lot, but Greene could be a steal for the Wolverines.
HODJuan Soto (OF), Bingo DeMoss (2B), George Zettlein (P), Pat Luby (P), Ron Gant (SS)Terry Larkin (P), Vern Olsen (P), Billy Holland (SS/P), Elmer Yoter (3B), Steven Hill (C), Harry East (3B), Lev Shreve (P), Phonney Martin (OF)ACould be transformational. Soto is a generational talent, DeMoss a clear succession plan for Ryne Sandberg, and even Holland has some intriguing potential as a 2-way player.
HOMDavid Cone (P)Cliff Chambers (P), Bob Walk (P), Jimmy Ripple (OF), Red Witt (P), Jeff Wallace (P), Harry Jordan (P), Bill Hallman (OF), Larry Ciaffone (OF), Jaycob Brugman (OF), Jeff Doyle (2B)BCone is a great pick, but there’s not a lot else here.
HOUEd Morris (P), Paul Splittorff (P), Tommy Harper (2B)Lou Piniella (OF), Ken Suarez (C), Jim Wohlford (SS), José Cisnero (P), Mike Hedlund (P), Clint Hurdle (C), Danny Bautista (OF), Rance Pless (1B), Bob Friedrichs (P), Ricky Gutiérrez (SS), Mauro Zárate (P), Rod Gilbreath (3B), Gene Moriarity (OF)B+Could be higher, depending on how Morris develops. Lots of potentially useful marginal pieces in later rounds–Piniella, Hurdle, Gutiérrez.
INDDave Winfield (OF), Johnny Allen (P)Gary Redus (OF), Tex McDonald (SS), Dusty Miller (OF), Billy McCool (P), Chub Sullivan (1B), Tom Wiedenbauer (OF), Jackson Tetreault (P), Logan Allen (P), Mike Champion (2B)AWinfield being available was shocking. Allen and Redus being added makes the draft a surprising success.
KCMChris Carpenter (P), Bill Sherdel (P), Allen Sothoron (P)Casey Kotchman (1B), Tex Pruiett (P), Fred Holdsworth (P), Gerónimo Peña (2B), Otto Schomberg (1B), Wish Egan (P), Pete Naton (C), Tom Donohue (C), Harley Dillinger (P)CWeird. Lots of franchise picks, but not a ton of actual value behind Carpenter.
LAARod Carew (2B), Charlie Leibrandt (P), Garry Templeton (SS)Steve Henderson (OF), Jack DiLauro (P), Mike Trost (C), Dennis Ribant (P), Lou Pote (P), Zach Lutz (3B), Dave Pierson (C), Doc Land (OF), Rubén Quevedo (P), Francisco Peña (c)B+Sure. Carew fills an obvious need, as does Templeton.
MEMJim Rice (OF)Sam Jethroe (OF), Joe Hornung (OF), John Healy (P), Hal Rhyne (SS), Joe Ellick (3B), Joe Cicero (OF), Jerry Mallett (OF), Iván Cruz (1B), Sam Childs (1B), Tony Balsamo (P), Harry Smith (2B)BAnother young OF? Really, Memphis? And after that, adding Jethroe to Rice? There better be some trades a-coming.
MCGPedro Martínez (P), Jack Glasscock (SS)Jesús Lazardo (P), Bobby Vaughn (2B), Erasmo Ramírez (P), Jing Johnson (P), Billy Redmon (SS), Scott Olsen (P), Steven Ames (P), Mario Ramírez (SS), Francis Martes (P), George Milstead (P)AAny draft that gets you Martínez is an A. But … Glasscock may be an overreach.
NYGAmos Rusie (P)Red Murray (OF), Dave Veres (P), Harry McCormick (P), Alvin Davis (1B), Kiko Calero (P), Frank West (P), Luis Castillo (P), Héctor Sánchez (C), Andy Rincon (P), Ed Wilkinson (OF), William Coon (OF), Kevin Collins (3B)CLove me some Rusie, and he’ll help right away … but the rest … Veres and Calero fit with the Gothams’ bullpen obsession.
NYYGiancarlo Stanton (OF)John Kruk (1B), Rich Coggins (OF), John Shaffer (P), Frank Gilhooley (OF), John Ryan Murphy (C), Dutch Rudolph (OF), Marcus Wilson (OF), Darrell Johnson (C), Roy Witherup (P), Mike Shea (P)DStanton is headed out of town, making this a much weaker draft, even if Kruk looks like a solid bat. Still, the Black Yankees never have cared about the draft, so perhaps that’s unfair: if Perry brings them a championship, they’ll see this as a great draft, no matter what Stanton does.
OTTJim McCormick (P), Robbie Ray (P), Billy Jurges (SS)Al Woods (OF), Jesse Carlson (P), Wilton Guerrero (2B), Ed Atkinson (OF), Dane Myers (OF), Bill Collver (OF), Orlando Mercado (C), Emanuel Snyder (OF)CMaybe? They need arms, so maybe?
PHIDarryl Strawberry (OF)Harry Eisenstat (P), Andy Hansen (P), Ben Tincup (P), Jack Scheible(P), Pat Bohen (P), Doc Amole (P), Ben Froehlich (C), John Peters (OF), Fred Buckingham (P), Andy Sommerville (P), Joe Schultz (C), Travis Swaggerty (OF)C-The Strawberry pick makes total sense. The rest … not so much.
PORJack Fournier (1B), Josh Johnson (P), Bob Groom (P)Steve Brye (OF), Rich Reese (1B), David Hulse (OF), Joe Gedeon (OF), Kyle Garlick (OF), Carlos Pascual (P), Moe Berg (SS), Bill Sarni (C), Terry Humphrey (C), Jesús Montero (C), Babe Ellison (1B)CTalk about looking to the future … Fournier has a future, but he’s 16. And the run on catchers at the end is just downright odd.
SFSJohn Smoltz (P), Dick McBride (P), Jimmie Lyons (OF)Joe Dunand (2B), Kevin Kobel (P), Nate Mondou (2B), Hank Hulvey (P), Bert Kuczynski (P), Jerar Encarnación (OF), Greg Aquino (P), Dorn Taylor (P), Art Smith (P)AI mean … how did they do this? Smoltz is a rotation arm, Lyons has immense talent.

TWIWBL 93.2: THE ROOKIE DRAFT, Year 2 – The Preview

This year, the Rookie Draft will be 8 rounds in length. The natural draft pool has been enhanced with a handful of top 1000 career and single season performers by WAR, as well as a few entries from i9s.

Each team may make 2 “free” picks, meaning they can select anyone in the draft. For the rest of their selections, they are limited to players historically attached (meaning, a significant amount of their playing time) to their franchises. Once they’ve made 8 picks (2 free and 6 franchise), these restrictions are lifted, although preference is still given to franchise appropriate selections.

Here are the teams, listed in the draft order, and their number of picks per round in the draft:

Team12345678Tot
POR1212111110
MEM12211119
CAG1231119
LAA12121119
BBB1211218
NYG1411119
OTT12111118
HOM1211117
BAL11111117
HOD312111110
KCM12111118
MCG213118
IND11111117
DET2111117
HOU1222111111
PHI12111118
CLE11111117
NYY1211117
BRK1111116
SFS21111118
NYY and HOD have additional 1st round picks due to FA losses; HOU has an additional 3rd round pick.

A few things jump out from that:

  • There’s a little bit of the rich getting richer with San Francisco’s 2 1st rounders and Houston’s draft-leading 11 total picks.
  • The House of David are in probably the best position, with 6 picks in the first 3 rounds.
  • Brooklyn, Detroit, and Homestead need to draft well to maximize challenging positions, either in total number of picks or their distribution.

Here’s how the AI sees the top twenty prospects, along with the franchises that are eligible to draft them without expending one of their “free” picks.

#NamePosAgeFranchises
1Rod Carew2B19LAA, POR
2Ed MorrisLHP20HOM
3Jim RiceCF18MEM
4Amos RusieRHP18NYG
5Darryl StrawberryCF18LAA
6Jim McCormickRHP21CLE, HOD
7Jack GlasscockSS20CLE, IND, KCM, NYG
8Tommy Harper2B20IND, OTT, MEM
9Ben TincupRHP20PHI
10Bingo DeMoss2B21CAG, HOD, IND
11Joe HornungOF20MEM
12Brett ButlerRF22BRK, CLE, NYG
13Jimmy RippleCF25NYG
14John HealyRHP23
15Pedro MartínezRHP19MEM, OTT, LAA
16Bob GroomRHP23POR, BAL
17Steve HendersonLF23LAA
18Otto Schomberg1B21
19Giancarlo StantonOF18MCG, NYY
20George ZettleinRHP27CAG, PHI

That is, of course, a really odd list in places (Jimmy Ripple, anyone?). So here are the next 15, in no particular order and according to me.

#NamePosAgeFranchises
1Jack Fournier1B16CAG, BRK, KCM
2Todd Helton1B22HOU
3John SmoltzRHP19BBB
4Juan SotoRF18POR, HOU, NYY, LAA
5Chris CarpenterRHP19KCM, OTT
6Ron GantSS18BBB, KCM
7Zack GreinkeRHP20HOU, BRK
8Charlie LeibrandtLHP21HOU, BBB
9David ConeRHP19LAA, NYY, HOU, OTT
10Josh JohnsonRHP18MCG
11Robbie RayLHP20HOU, OTT
12Garry TempletonSS19HOU, KCM
13Josh HaderLHP19MCG
14Jimmie LyonsLF20CAG, HOD, IND, KCM
15Johnny AllenRHP24CLE, NYY

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